| Sharon Moore |
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HUSBAND William DUTCHER-66
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BORN: 31 Mar 1786
PLACE: ,,NY
DIED: after 1855
PLACE:
MARR:
PLACE:
FATHER:
MOTHER:
January 1849 Parthena is married in William's house in Matteson
1830 Westfield Twp, Tioga Co, PA males <5 (1), 5-10 (1), 10-15 (1), 40-50 (1);
females <5 (2), 5-10 (1), 10-15 (1), 15-20 (1), 30-40 (1)
1850 Matteson, Branch Co, MI census with wife and kids. farmer.
born NY.
Deed to sell land to Warren Dutcher, 1855. William and Nicena are
from Matteson, Branch Co., Warren is of Quincy, Branch Co.
Michigan.
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WIFE Nicena WARREN-67
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BORN: 12 Jul 1790
PLACE: ,,NY
DIED: Aft 1855
PLACE:
FATHER:
MOTHER:
Niece of Joseph Warren who died at Bunker Hill, 1775 per Warren
Dutcher descendants.
made mark on 1855 deed.
1850 Matteson, Branch Co., MI census with Wm and kids. born NY.
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CHILDREN
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1. NAME: Deborah DUTCHER
BORN: 18 Sep 1810
PLACE:
DIED: after 1852
PLACE:
SPOUSE:
MARR:
PLACE:
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2. NAME: Helen Elizer DUTCHER
BORN: 2 May 1813
PLACE:
DIED: 2 Aug 1885
PLACE:Westfield Twp, Tioga Co, OA
SPOUSE:Christopher SWIMELY
MARR:
PLACE:
1870 census Eaton Co MI - 55 - Roxand, David b. DE
1880 census Eaton Co MI - 62 - Roxand, David b. DE
1900 census Eaton Co MI - 82 - Grand Ledge, David b. DE
witness to affidavit of custody of Ambrose's kids is Parley
Warren of Hillsdale, MI.
has granddaughter Edith E. Smith, b 1888, MI, living with him and
2nd wife in 1900. Granddaughter of hers?
Death record states parents are William Dutcher and _____ Warren.
have lots more on children of David & Lucinda
Other marriages:
Margaret
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5. NAME: Mary Ann DUTCHER
BORN: 25 Jun 1818
PLACE: ,Dutchess,NY
DIED: 25 Aug 1901
PLACE: Fremont,Sandusky,OH
SPOUSE: John HOOVER
MARR: 26 Oct 1835(div)
PLACE: ,Cuyahoga,OH
1850 Cencus - Age 28 Marion Co. - born NY w/ Catherine, Almira
& Harriet.
1870 Census - Age 47 Sandusky Co. - born PA employed as
housekeeper for Jacob Strohl
1880 Census - Sandusky Co. - born NY Age 55 Last name Strohl,
lived on State St. as head of house with children Myria and
Charles
1900 Census - Sandusky Co. - Age 78 born PA Last name Strohl,
lived at 420 E. State St. Fremont, OH with Fredericka Elliott 4/4
children
Obit says born June 25, 1821 in PA
Her father was a cabinetmaker per William Elliott's notes
Her maiden name was Warren per William Elliott's notes
Divorced John Hoover in Marion on October 21, 1850 - He left Mary
on January 23, 1847.
Marriage license to John Hoover signed by William Dutcher, giving
his consent because she was only 17.
Other marriages:
24 Apr 1852 David W. ELLIOTT
30 Oct 1870 Jacob STROHL
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6. NAME: Hannah DUTCHER
BORN: 22 Sep 1820
PLACE:
DIED: 1845
PLACE:
SPOUSE: John Q. ADAMS
MARR: 26 Dec 1840
PLACE: ,Branch,MI
Witness at wedding William Harry or Harvy Dutcher
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7. NAME: William Henry DUTCHER
BORN: 18 Nov 1822
PLACE:
DIED:
PLACE:
SPOUSE: Susan
MARR:
PLACE:
In St. Joseph Co 1850 & 60.
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8. NAME: Parthena E. DUTCHER
BORN: 19 Sep 1824
PLACE: ,,NY
DIED: 24 Feb 1876
PLACE: Matteson,Branch,MI
SPOUSE: John BAKER
MARR: 1 Jan 1849
PLACE: Matteson,Branch,MI
1850 Census - Branch Co. MI
1860 Census - Branch Co. MI
1870 Census - Branch Co. MI
Died of "Brain fever"
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9. NAME: Rachael A. DUTCHER
BORN: 5 Nov 1826
PLACE:
DIED: 5 Mar 1846
PLACE:
SPOUSE: Joseph Miles ADAMS
MARR: 4 Jun 1844
PLACE: St Joseph Co, MI
son named Ira
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10. NAME: Warren H. DUTCHER
BORN: 20 Nov 1828
PLACE: ,,PA
DIED: 1910/1911
PLACE: Omaha,Douglas,NE
SPOUSE: Priscilla Louise WATERMAN
MARR: 1848
PLACE:
met Priscilla in Chicago per his descendants.
1850 census - Branch Co., MI with parents. b. PA.
1860 census - Constantine, St. Jospeh Co, MI with wife and kids.
born PA. carp.
1870 census - Constantine, MI with wife and kids. born OH. house
carpenter
1880 census - not found in Constantine
1900 census - Omaha, NE, with wife at son Albert's., born PA.
carpenter.
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11. NAME: Durintha DUTCHER
BORN: 7 Apr 1831
PLACE:
DIED: 4 Mar 1852
PLACE:
SPOUSE: Collins COYKENDALL
MARR:
PLACE:
lived in St. Joseph Co, IN 1850
son named Warren
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12. NAME: Sarah Secelia DUTCHER
BORN: 2 Nov 1833
PLACE: ,,PA
DIED: 1910
PLACE: ,,KS
SPOUSE: George CHAMBERLAIN
MARR:
PLACE:
1850 Census with father & mother in Branch Co.
1860 Census with husband in Branch Co.
1910 Census wtih son Lewis Greenwood Co. KS
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13. NAME: John Harper DUTCHER
BORN: 28 Apr 1837
PLACE:
DIED: 28 Aug 1839
PLACE:
SPOUSE:
MARR:
PLACE:
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The items below are some email I've gotten about this family.
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 09:11:30 -0700
From: mad@AZStarNet.com
(Mark Alan Dringman)
Subject: dutcher
Dear Sharon,
Checked some records after getting your message. I found some correspondence between Warren H. Dutcher who served as a saddler in Co. E 3rd Reg Mich. Vol. Cav. and the government. I don't have his enlistment papers. The story on him was that he deserted June 9, 1862 at Farmington, MS and was arrested May 24, 1864 in Tioga Co., PA. He'd gotten married and settled down on a farm. In two different pieces of paper, he gives two different dates of birth, April 9, 1832 and April 9, 1834. He'd married a woman named Sylvia Cartley or Carthy or something like that in Westfield, PA. Married by James A. Goodspeed, Esq. He said there were no previous marriages. He lists living children as of July 4, 1898 as Elnora, born Sep 7, 1871. On Jan. 26, 1909, Nora Dutcher King of Westfield, PA filed for death benefits on her father. Oh, I did find an enlistment paper. He enlisted on Sep 1, 1863. He reported being born in Tioga Co., PA and being 27 years old. He was 5'6 1/2" tall, dark complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, and a saddler by occupation when enrolled
I also have a possible candidate for brother David. What is most striking is what his sons were named. The ages on this set of records for when the children were born are unclear. The mother may have been talking about how old they were when they died or how old they would have been if they had still been alive. She was granted a dependent mother's pension on her son William H. Dutcher of the 2nd Mich. Cav. He died of typhoid in Nashville. I have copies of a couple of letters he wrote home. The originals are evidently in his file in Washington, DC. After she died , David Dutcher filed for dependent father's pension. He was listed as being 80 or 81 in 1899. His memory evidently wasn't the best. He reported that he'd married his wife, Lucinda in PA sometome in 1837, but couldn't remember the exact date. They were married by Sheldon Tuttle, JP. He indicated that she had died on July 18, 1899 at Oneida, Eaton Co. MI. His PO(he lived in the country) was Grand Ledge. On Lucinda's mother's affidavit from Sep 11, 1883, she indicates they had had several PO changes.( MI was subdividing counties during this period and tha may explain this.) In 1862,their address was Basswood Corners, Hillsdale Co. In 1865, it was Hillsdale, Hillsdale Co. In 1869, it was Grand Ledge, Eaton Co and had remained that. The following is why I think he's Warren's brother. The children are listed as Ambrose 29, now dead, Warren 27, Johette 25, now dead, Gilbert 23, now dead,William H., now dead, George 18.
I know I have something on a Gilbert Dutcher who also died in the Civil War. I'll see if tha is their son Also, an Ambrose Dutcher served with the 7th Cavalry. I don't know if I have any more info on him. I'll look. I realize that the dates don't add up exactly. My experience is that is often the case. People just wern't as picky about details like that back then, Does any of this look familiar or helpful?
Yolanda
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 10:39:29 -0700
From: mad@AZStarNet.com
(Mark Alan Dringman)
Subject: dutcher
Dear Sharon,
I found some more information that I wanted to pass along to you. This is on David Dutcher's son, Ambrose. He served in the 10th Mich. Engineers. There is an affidavit about how he contracted measles in the hospital at Jackson 5 days before his discharge. He finally left the hospital on May 13 with his brother-in-law, Hiram Holbrook. He only got to Collumbia(?sp) in Jackson Co. He died there on May 20 from pneumonia. His wife, nee Louisa A. Soule or Soulz abandoned their children almost immediately and reportedly "existing as a prostitute" which couldn't have lasted too long because she was remarried to a man named Whitney on June 1, 1867. David Dutcher took custody of their children who were: Merritt, born Sep. 1, 1861, Ellenora, born Sep. 15, 1863, and Ida J., born Oct. 29, 1864. Another interesting tidbit: the 2 witnesses to his affidavit were Parley WARREN and B. Saxon, both of Hillsdale who attested to their personal acquaintence with David Dutcher. Also, I think your William is in David Dutcher's book, albeit with no antecedents. I'm pretty sure he's the one at the very bottom of page 17.
Yolanda,
You certainly have a lot of Dutcher information! Yes, I believe the William Dutcher on page 17 of David Dutcher's book is ours. I notice that it does not line up in the columns with the rest and so I wonder if it was added later. Also, on page 61 are some more curiosities. Three people named Warren Dutcher. Sarah Sacena Dutcher is definitely daughter of our William. And the David born in 1740 who I think is the one who MIGHT be the father of William. Why is all this information added? Who is the David Dutcher who did this book? What are his sources?
I wonder who that Parley Warren was - very interesting!
The same day you sent the last e-mail, we had gone to the library and looked up in census records the David, father of Abrose, etc., that you wrote about. What you sent explains some things we found.
In 1850, David Dutcher, age 34 is living with his wife Lucinda and kids Ambrose (15), Warren (13), Juliet (11), Gilbert (8), William (4), and George W. (2) in Westfield Twp, Tioga Co, PA.
1860, did not find David.
In 1870, David and Lucinda are living in Eaton Co, MI with Merritt (8), Eldora (6), and Ida (5). These must be Ambrose's kids. Looks like their mom did not take them when she remarried.
In 1880, David and Lucinda are in Eaton Co with a grand-daughter, Kate Hansbrook (1). According to what you sent, a brother-in-law of Ambrose was named Holbrook. I looked only at the soundex, so maybe the census really said something closer to Holbrook. A George Dutcher family and a Gilbert Dutcher family are nearby.
In 1900, David Dutcher (82) and his wife Margaret (58) are in Grand Ledge, Eaton Co with yet another grand-daughter Edith Smith (12).
Now I know a lot about David. I will have to see if I can find out when he died and send for an obituary.
Thanks again for all your info.
Sharon
Logusta Dutcher
Mar 16, 1994
I am looking for information on William DUTCHER (DEUTSCHER or DEUTCHER), born 3/31/1786; who married Nycenia Warren, born 7/12/1790; lived in the Poughkeepsie NY area. Especially interested in parents of either William or Nycenia.
Logusta Heizer Dutcher
Doug Adams
30 Dec 1997
Doug,
I saw your query in the latest Genealogical Helper for the children of Daniel W. Adams, specifically asking about the death of John Q. Adams. I have his death date as 1874, though no place. I got this information from Margaret Mangold, a descendent of John Q. Adams and Hannah Dutcher.
Hannah and Rachel Dutcher are sisters of my husband's Mary Ann Dutcher. I learned from your query that Rachel married Joseph Miles Adams. I recently learned she had married an Adams, but did not know who.
Sharon
Thanks for your interesting message. Margaret Mangold is my sister! But the death date for John Q. is not verified. There is some evidence that he died in the early 1850's, but again, we are not sure.
We are certainly interested in the Dutcher families - have just a little - since Hannah is my direct ancestor. (Margaret has a new grandaughter named Hannah Margaret.)
I am happy to share with you. For a start, check out our web page (see below). Click on ADAMS, then any of the names that are high lighted.
We found a cousin last year that had Daniel Keith ADAMS' Bible and I have copied all the information from that. I hope to add that to the page soon.
Doug
Researching: ADAMS, ATWATER, BERGEY, CODY, CRAVEN, CUSTER, DECKER, EBERHARD, FRENCH, GONSER, HACKENBERG, HAINES, HARBSTER, HENRICKS, KEEFER,
Dane Swimeley
Lauren Ten
Sat, 22 Nov 1997 21:19:51
Subject: Re: Swimly family of Tioga Co PA
I just got started searching for Swimleys in Tioga County PA -- this week as a matter of fact. There are some of this family that married into the Dutcher family and I hope that by knowing more about the Swinleys, I'll learn about the origin of the Dutchers.
So far I have learned that there are an awful lot of ways to spell the name! Here is what else I have:
Is this your John in the family of Christopher and Eliza? If so, do you have more information on Eliza?
Hi, Sharon,
Yes this is my John. Also my Lucinda and James. I have most of my info was left to me by my Dad so right now I have only names and a few dates. Except for one thing which took me a while to figuer out. I have a letter dated April 20, 1852 this letter was written by Helen E(liza) Swymley to her to her brother and sister. She lists the birth dates of her father,mother and siblings also dates of deaths.
The letter is very hard to reas but I will send you the names and dates give me a couple of weeks
Dane Swimeley
Subject: Helen Eliza Letter
Fri, 28 Nov 1997
I tried to copy the letter but it is to faint. The letter is written on a course blue gray paper, the ink is faded to a light gray it also has been taped together and the tape has yellowed. The paper shows some signs of yellowing around the edges. The hand writing is neat and in the style of the time. Here is my transcrip I left spelling and punctuation the same as in the letter. The letter is to Helen from her sister. I also know that one of the Swimeleys moved to Michigan I donot which one.I will try to Photograph the Letter and get it to you. Hope you enjoy this and that it helps in your search
Dane
April the 29 1852
Dear brothers and sisters it is with pleasure that I once more enjoy the opportunity of wrighting a few lines to you we. at present are Blefst with health so as to bee all around but my Huabands health is quite poor but he is on the gain I think.I hope these few lines will find you all well. Fathers health is good Mother has been sick but she is about again. William and Familey are all well he has two childern a Boy and Girl. I heard from Warren about three Weaks ago and they are ware well I suppose you know that he is Married two agirl by the name of Persilua Waterman he lives about twelve miles from us. Sara S Chaimle---- and Familey are all well she has got Boy Four Months old and she calls his name Lewis Lemar she lives about two Miles from us but she is with mee now and send her best Respets to you all But of Duvintha she is gon to try the Beality of the Spirt World she Died March the fourth she has left a Husband and one Boy he will be four years old next October What a diferents time makes when we come to Michigan we Ware five ------- number and now we are --- and which shall go first I know not --- mabee -- five what I know but if I am Prepared to mete my God in peece it maters not which is the first we have two Boys the oldest was two years old last November the 18 and we call him Phila Lorenso Baker the youngest is three Mounths old and we call him John Baker.
(here we continue on the back of the page)
in your letter you rote that you wanted that we should write your age and so I will familey Record and send to you
Father was bornd
March the 21 1786
Mother was bornd July the 12 1790
Deborah was bornd Sepetember 18 1810
Hellen Eliza was bornd May the 9 1813
Rachel was bornd January 16 1815
David was bornd September the 20 1816
Mary Ann was bornd June the 25 1818
Hannah was bornd September 221820
William H was bornd November the -- 1822
Panthena was bornd September the 19 1824
Rachel was bornd November the 5 1826
Warren was borrnd November the 20 1828
Duvintha was bornd April the 7 1831
hear is a lock of sister Duvintha hair
Sara S was bornd November 2 18--
John Harper was bornd April the 28 1837
Hannah Adams
Departed this life -------- 1845
Rachel Adams Departed this life March 5 1846
Duvintha Coy---dall Departed this life March 4 1852
Rachel Dutcher Departed this Life December 29 1815
John Harper Ducther Departed this life August 28 1839
This I have drawn from Fathers familey Record
This from Panthina Baker to Helen E Swymley
Childern of Helen Eliza and Christopher Joseph Swimler
Joseph Swimeley
Jerusha Swimeley
Loreta Swimeley
Vincent Swimeley Killed in the civil war
Silas Swimeley
John Swimeley
23 Aug 1998
I have some info on the Swimler/Swimley/Swimelar family, etc. I
have your names David Dutcher and Helen Eliza Dutcher in my FTM
database married to Swimelars, although I don't have any further
information on the Dutchers, and was not aware of Helen and
David's relationship. Their spouses, Christopher and Lucinda were
siblings, and children of Joseph Swimley and Anna Schoonover. I
descend from Samuel Swimelar, brother of Christopher and Lucinda.
I have a lot more on the Schoonovers and related families (going
back to the early Dutch settlement of Kingston, Ulster County,
NY), than I do on the Swimelars. Contact me if you're interested.
Lauren
2 May 1999
Hi, Dutcher researchers,
We just got back from a short research trip to Pennsylvania and
found a wee
bit of information on our Dutcher line. Genealogists are so
grateful for
small favors. I thought I'd share it with the list – you are
the only ones
who would appreciate it.
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What we knew before we went:
William Dutcher, born about 1786, and his wife Nicena Warren,
born about
1890, were living in Tioga County, NY in 1830.
In 1835, their daughter (my husband's ancestor) Mary Ann, age 17,
marries
her first husband, John Hoover in Cuyahoga County, Ohio.
In 1840, William, Nicena, and the younger children are in St.
Joseph County,
Michigan.
One son of William and Nicena says on three census records that
he is born
in Delaware (1818). The rest of the kids are born in NY or PA.
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What we found out on our trip:
William Dutcher first started paying taxes in Tioga County in
1826. The last
year he paid taxes is 1835.
So now we know when the family first appears in the county, and
when they
left for Michigan.
In 1834, a John Hoover shows up in Tioga County. The next year, a
John
Hoover, Jr. appears. (The name is sometimes spelled Hawver.) The
same year
that William Dutcher leaves Tioga county, John Hoover, Jr.
leaves.
So now we know how Mary Ann happens to marry someone on the way
to Michigan.
He was probably traveling with the family. More research needed
here.
Next door to William Dutcher in Tioga county is a Thomas Warren.
I don't
know how I happened to not notice this before. But being in
Pennsylvania and
looking at EVERYTHING, this jumps out at us. He is still there in
1850 and
1860 and, born in NY in 1785, is a few years older than Nicena
Warren.
Back home, I find five Thomas Warrens in NY in 1820 in the census
index.
Looking at the one for Delaware county, NY, I see that living a
few doors
away is a William Ducher. The hash marks for the children match
exactly to
our William. This entry is clearly written, but is in the index
as "William
Decker."
There are a pack of Warrens in the same township in Delaware
county, NY –
there since 1790 at least – so this provides fertile ground
for research of
Nicena's origin.
Remember David, the son of William, who said he was born in
Delaware? He
moved to Tioga county, Pa when he was 8. He had been born in
Delaware
COUNTY, not the state. I'm glad that is cleared up – We
could not figure out
how they could have been in Delaware in 1818.
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Nothing earth-shattering here, but a few loose ends tied up and
some new
places to look. It's only been about two years since we found
William &
Nicena in Tioga County, NY in 1830. Two years to go back ten
years.
I'll post all relevant info we got from Tioga and Bradford
counties on the
web site this week or so.
Don't give up,
Sharon
http://www.genealogy.org/~smoore/dutchers